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2026 Chrysler Pacifica vs 2026 Honda Odyssey

2026 Chrysler Pacifica and 2026 Honda Odyssey shown side by side

Only one of these two minivans can be ordered with a second driven axle. The 2026 Chrysler Pacifica is offered with all-wheel drive. The 2026 Honda Odyssey is front-wheel drive on every trim, and all-wheel drive is not offered on it. For a family in Western Pennsylvania that keeps a van through a decade of Februaries, that is usually where the decision lands.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica and 2026 Honda Odyssey shown side by side
  • At a Glance
  • Powertrain and Drive
  • Size and Maneuvering
  • Seating and Cargo
  • Comfort and Technology
  • Driver Assistance
  • Safety
  • Warranty
  • Choose Which
  • FAQ

The Odyssey answers back on seat count, and it wins that one outright. It seats 8 in all four of its trims, with no 7-seat version. The Pacifica seats 7 standard. Its 8-passenger layout belongs to the Select alone, front-wheel drive only, so 8 seats and all-wheel drive cannot live on the same Pacifica.

Almost everything else lands close. Fuel economy is identical front-wheel drive to front-wheel drive, and the two engines make the same torque. The two vans are within about an inch of each other in length and height, and cargo volume is effectively matched behind all three rows. So it comes down to two questions: do you need the extra driven axle, and do you need the eighth seat?

At a Glance

Anyone shopping these two wants the same handful of things: sliding doors, a third row an adult can sit in, and a cargo hold that takes whatever the week piles up. Both vans deliver all three. The table below is where they stop agreeing.

Dimension 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Drive systems offered Front-wheel drive, with all-wheel drive offered on the Limited Front-wheel drive across the range; all-wheel drive is not offered
Engine 3.6L Pentastar V-6, 287 hp, 262 lb-ft 3.5L V6, 280 hp, 262 lb-ft
Fuel economy, front-wheel drive 19 city / 28 highway / 22 combined 19 city / 28 highway / 22 combined
Seating 7 standard; an 8-passenger layout is optional on the Select and offered only with front-wheel drive, never with all-wheel drive 8 in every trim; no 7-seat version offered
Third-row headroom 38.7 in 38.3 in
Shoulder room, first / second / third row 63.8 / 63.0 / 61.2 in 63.1 / 61.6 / 60.0 in
Cargo behind third / second / first row 32.3 / 87.5 / 140.5 cu ft 32.8 / 86.6 / 140.7 cu ft
Roadside assistance 5 years / 60,000 miles Through the 3-year / 36,000-mile basic term
Best-Fit Buyer Type The family that wants a driven front and rear axle for valley winters and can live with 7 seats The family that needs 8 seats in every configuration and more legroom in the back two rows

Read across it and a pattern shows up. The Pacifica's edges are in what it can be built with and how wide it is. The Odyssey's are in how many people it carries and how much room their legs get.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica V-6 and all-wheel drive compared with the Honda Odyssey powertrain

Powertrain and Drive

Both vans use a V6 and an automatic transmission, and they make identical torque. The drivetrain choice is what separates them.

Powertrain 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Engine 3.6L Pentastar V-6 3.5L V6
Horsepower 287 hp at 6,400 rpm 280 hp at 6,000 rpm
Torque 262 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm 262 lb-ft at 4,700 rpm
Transmission TorqueFlite 9-speed automatic 10-speed automatic with Shift-By-Wire and paddle shifters
Drive systems Front-wheel drive; all-wheel drive offered on the Limited Front-wheel drive, all four trims
Fuel economy, front-wheel drive 19 / 28 / 22 19 / 28 / 22
Fuel tank 19 gal 19.5 gal
Fuel Regular, 87 octane Regular unleaded

The 7 horsepower between them is not something you will feel with the van loaded and the school run ahead of you. The torque figures are the same number, though the Pacifica reaches its peak 700 rpm earlier, and the Odyssey's tank holds half a gallon more on the same 22 combined rating. What does matter is that the Pacifica can send power to the rear wheels and the Odyssey cannot, on any trim, at any price.

All-wheel drive on the Pacifica is a Limited configuration rather than a trim of its own, and the rear axle takes something back nearly everywhere it touches the van. The table below sets the Pacifica against itself, front-wheel drive against all-wheel drive, so what that axle costs sits in one place.

Pacifica, front-wheel drive against all-wheel drive Front-wheel drive All-wheel drive
Fuel economy 19 / 28 / 22 17 / 25 / 20
Final drive ratio 3.25 3.73
Curb weight 4,521 lb 4,883 lb
Gross vehicle weight rating 6,055 lb 6,300 lb
Height 69.9 in 70.7 in
Ground clearance 5.1 in 5.4 in
Track, front and rear 68.3 in 68.8 in
Turning circle, curb to curb 39.7 ft 40.2 ft
8-passenger layout Optional on Select Not available

Adding the rear axle costs 2 mpg combined, puts 362 lb on the scales, re-gears the final drive from 3.25 to 3.73, raises the van 0.8 in and widens the turning circle by half a foot. It also closes the door on the 8-passenger layout. Those are the terms. Whether they are worth it depends on how your worst 10 mornings of the year go.

Towing is close enough to call even, and neither van can tow its rating without equipment added.

Towing 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Maximum rating 3,600 lb 3,500 lb
Equipment required The factory towing equipment fitted Honda's towing equipment and hitch ball fitted, with trailer brakes in use
Where it is offered The Limited and the Pinnacle All four trims

That 100 lb is not a reason to pick one van over the other. Two other things are. The Pacifica cannot be equipped to tow on every trim, so a buyer who tows should settle that question before landing on the Select. And Honda recommends premium unleaded when the Odyssey is towing.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica exterior dimensions compared with the Honda Odyssey

Size and Maneuvering

Parked next to each other, these two are the same van. Length and height land within about an inch, and they turn in the same circle.

Measured front-wheel drive to front-wheel drive 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Overall length 204.3 in 205.2 in
Width, body only 79.6 in 78.5 in
Height 69.9 in 69.6 in
Wheelbase 121.6 in 118.1 in
Turning circle, curb to curb 39.7 ft 39.64 ft
Curb weight, entry configuration 4,521 lb 4,526 lb

Length, height and curb weight are effectively identical, and the turning circles differ by less than a tenth of a foot. Neither van is easier to thread through a school pickup line or back into a garage than the other.

The two figures that do separate them: the Pacifica is 1.1 in wider across the body, and it carries 3.5 in more wheelbase. Neither number changes how the van parks or where it fits. The extra width is the one you notice once you are inside.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica seating and cargo area compared with the Honda Odyssey

Seating and Cargo

This is the section where the Odyssey wins, and it wins on the number families count first. Every Odyssey seats 8. No Pacifica seats 8 unless it is a Select with the optional layout, which rules out all-wheel drive.

The constraint that catches people at the order sheet: a Pacifica cannot be had with 8 seats and all-wheel drive. The 8-passenger 2/3/3 layout is a Select option offered only with front-wheel drive. If your family needs the eighth belt and you also want the rear axle, the Pacifica cannot do both, and the Odyssey seats 8 as standard on every trim it sells.

Trim by trim, the seat counts land like this.

Trim Seats standard Optional seat count
Pacifica Select 7, in a 2/2/3 layout 8, in a 2/3/3 layout, front-wheel drive only
Pacifica Limited 7, in a 2/2/3 layout None
Pacifica Pinnacle 7, with second-row captain's chairs None
Honda Odyssey, every trim 8 No 7-seat version offered

Once everyone is buckled in, the room splits row by row.

Measurement 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
First-row legroom 41.1 in 40.9 in
Second-row legroom 39.0 in 40.9 in
Third-row legroom 36.5 in 38.1 in
First-row shoulder room 63.8 in 63.1 in
Second-row shoulder room 63.0 in 61.6 in
Third-row shoulder room 61.2 in 60.0 in
First-row hip room 59.0 in 58.6 in
Second-row hip room 64.8 in 64.8 in
Third-row hip room 49.5 in 48.4 in

The Odyssey gives the second row 1.9 in more legroom and the third row 1.6 in more, which is the difference between a teenager sitting behind a tall driver and a teenager complaining about it. The Pacifica is the wider van in all three rows, by 0.7 in up front, 1.4 in in the middle and 1.2 in in the back. It also has 1.1 in more hip room in the third row. Three across is where that width gets noticed. Hip room in the middle row is the one interior measurement that comes out level, at 64.8 in on both.

Headroom needs its own table, because the Pacifica's changes with the roof.

Headroom Pacifica Select, no sunroof Pacifica Limited and Pinnacle, dual-pane sunroof Honda Odyssey
First row 40.1 in 38.4 in 38.7 in
Second row 39.6 in 38.0 in 39.2 in
Third row 38.7 in 38.7 in 38.3 in

Set against the Pacifica trims that carry the dual-pane sunroof, the Odyssey has 0.3 in more headroom up front and 1.2 in more in the second row. A Select without the sunroof has the tallest front and middle rows of anything here, at 40.1 in and 39.6 in, so the glass roof on a Limited or a Pinnacle is worth sitting under before you order it. The third row is the Pacifica's by 0.4 in, and that figure holds whether or not the van has the dual-pane sunroof.

Cargo volume is a wash, in all three of the ways a family actually loads a van.

Cargo volume 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Behind the third row 32.3 cu ft 32.8 cu ft
Behind the second row 87.5 cu ft 86.6 cu ft
Behind the first row 140.5 cu ft 140.7 cu ft

Behind the third row the Odyssey holds 0.5 cu ft more; behind the second row the Pacifica holds 0.9 cu ft more; behind the first row they are 0.2 cu ft apart. Nobody should pick a minivan on those margins. No grocery run will ever find the difference.

What does differ is how the seats get out of the way, and that is worth trying with your hands rather than reading about.

Seat mechanism 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Third row Stow 'n Go bench that folds into the floor, on every trim; the Pinnacle folds it by power One-Motion 60/40 split Magic Seat, standard on all four trims
Second row The Select adds Stow 'n Go bucket seats that drop into the floor the same way; the Pinnacle has captain's chairs Magic Slide seats with armrests, moving side to side and forward for walk-in access to the back, with a multi-function center seat that makes the middle row a three-place bench

Two answers to the same problem. Chrysler's puts the seats under the floor. Honda's slides them out of the path. Work both of them yourself in the parking lot before you decide, because that is the part of either van you will touch the most.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica Uconnect 5 cabin compared with the Honda Odyssey interior

Comfort and Technology

Most of this list is a tie, because both makers load a minivan heavily as standard. The rows that are not ties sit at the two ends of each range: what the entry trim gives you, and what the top trim gives you.

Feature 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Touchscreen Uconnect 5 with a 10.1-inch screen, standard from the Select 9-inch touchscreen, standard on all four trims
Driver information display 7-inch configurable cluster, standard on all 7-inch display, standard on all four
Wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto Standard from the Select Standard on all four trims
Heated front seats Standard on all Standard on all four
Heated steering wheel Standard on every trim Elite only
Ventilated front seats Standard from the Limited, 2 trims of 3 Elite only, 1 trim of 4
Automatic climate control Three-zone, standard on all, with clean-air filtration Tri-zone, standard on all four, with second-row controls
Remote start Standard on all Standard on all four
Power sliding doors Standard from the Select Standard on all four
Audio, entry trim Select: 6 speakers EX-L: 160-watt system, 7 speakers with a subwoofer
Audio, top trim Pinnacle: Harman Kardon, 19 speakers with a 10-inch subwoofer Elite: 500-watt system, 11 speakers with a subwoofer and Multi-Zone Audio

Sound is the clean split. The Odyssey starts better, with a subwoofer and an extra speaker on its entry trim, and the Pacifica finishes higher, with 19 speakers at the top of the range against 11. The heated steering wheel is the row worth marking in a valley winter: a Pacifica has one on the Select, the Limited and the Pinnacle alike, while an Odyssey buyer reaches it on the Elite. Interior materials climb on both sides, from the Pacifica's Caprice leatherette through Nappa leather at the top, and from leather-trimmed seating on the Odyssey EX-L to perforated leather with piping on the Elite.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica driver-assist features compared with Honda Sensing on the Odyssey

Driver Assistance

Both vans put a full set of driver aids on every trim, and the overlap is heavy. Everything in the table below is standard equipment across both ranges, with the last row the exception.

Feature 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Adaptive cruise control Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go Adaptive Cruise Control with Low-Speed Follow
Automatic emergency braking Pedestrian automatic emergency braking Collision Mitigation Braking System with Advanced Pedestrian Detection
Forward collision warning Forward Collision Warning-Plus Forward Collision Warning
Lane departure warning Lane Departure Warning-Plus Lane Departure Warning
Blind-spot coverage Blind-spot Monitoring with Rear Cross Path detection Blind Spot Information with Cross Traffic Monitor
Automatic high beams Auto high-beam LED headlamps Auto High-Beam Headlights
Rear park assist ParkSense rear park assist with stop, every trim Parking sensors, 4 front and 4 rear, on Touring and Elite

The parking row is the one that changes a shopping list. Rear park assist beeps at you from the base Pacifica Select. On the Odyssey the sensors arrive on the Touring, though when they do arrive there are 8 of them covering both ends of the van. Everything above that row is a wash in practice, whatever each maker calls it.

Honda groups its aids under the Honda Sensing name, and that suite also carries Lane Keeping Assist System, Road Departure Mitigation and Traffic Sign Recognition, all standard across the Odyssey range. Chrysler names each Pacifica feature individually rather than under a suite name, so the two lists read differently even where the hardware does the same job.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica safety ratings compared with the Honda Odyssey

Safety

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) rates the Chrysler Pacifica 5 stars overall and the Honda Odyssey 5 stars overall. The Pacifica's all-wheel-drive configuration is rated separately and also holds 5 stars overall. Ratings change as new tests are published, so check NHTSA.gov for the latest.

Underneath the Pacifica's overall figure sit 5 stars for frontal impact, 5 stars for side impact and 4 stars for rollover, at a rollover risk of 11.6 percent. The all-wheel-drive Pacifica's separate rating lands in the same place, 5 stars overall with 4 for rollover, at a rollover risk of 12.1 percent. NHTSA also lists electronic stability control, forward-collision warning and lane-departure warning as standard equipment on the Pacifica.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica warranty coverage compared with the Honda Odyssey

Warranty

Three of the four coverage terms are the same on both vans. The fourth is not close.

Coverage 2026 Chrysler Pacifica 2026 Honda Odyssey
Basic limited 3 years / 36,000 miles 3 years / 36,000 miles
Powertrain 5 years / 60,000 miles 5 years / 60,000 miles
Corrosion perforation 5 years / unlimited miles 5 years / unlimited miles
Roadside assistance 5 years / 60,000 miles Through the 3-year / 36,000-mile basic term

Roadside assistance runs 2 extra years and 24,000 extra miles on the Pacifica. That is a real ownership difference in a region where a flat tire in February is a scheduled event rather than a surprise. The unlimited-mileage corrosion term matters here too, on both vans equally, because salted roads are the local hazard that eats sheet metal. Honda also includes the Honda Maintenance Program, 1 year or 12,000 miles, with every Odyssey trim.

Choosing between the 2026 Chrysler Pacifica and the 2026 Honda Odyssey

Choose Which

Choose the 2026 Chrysler Pacifica if the all-wheel-drive option is what you came for, or if 7 seats are all you have ever needed. It suits the buyer who wants the winter hardware available rather than absent. It suits three across in the third row, because it has the width for it. And it suits anyone who folds seats into the floor often enough to care that the mechanism is there on every trim.

Choose the 2026 Honda Odyssey if the eighth seat is not negotiable. It fits the carpool family, the family whose kids are the tall ones, and anyone who would rather have more legroom in the back two rows than the option of a driven rear axle. If you want 8 seats and all-wheel drive together, neither van offers that. Only the Odyssey gives you the seats.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica parked at dusk

Where the Chrysler Pacifica Wins

The Pacifica's advantages start with what the order sheet allows and what shows up standard on the entry trim.

  • All-wheel drive is on the order sheet: the Limited can be built with it, and there is no all-wheel-drive Odyssey to order. Count the cost honestly. The all-wheel-drive Pacifica is rated 17 / 25 / 20 rather than 19 / 28 / 22, carries 362 lb more, and gives up the 8-passenger layout.
  • Third-row headroom, 38.7 in against 38.3 in, and the Pacifica figure does not move whether or not the van has the dual-pane sunroof.
  • Wider at every row, at 63.8 / 63.0 / 61.2 in of shoulder room against 63.1 / 61.6 / 60.0 in, on a wheelbase 3.5 in longer. Every Pacifica also has a third-row Stow 'n Go bench that folds flat into the floor.
  • A heated steering wheel on every trim, where the Odyssey puts one on the Elite. Ventilated front seats arrive on the Pacifica Limited, 2 trims of 3, against the Odyssey's Elite alone.
  • ParkSense rear park assist with stop, standard from the Select. On the Odyssey, parking sensors start on the Touring.
  • A 10.1-inch Uconnect 5 touchscreen on the entry trim, against 9 inches. At the top of each range, the Pinnacle's Harman Kardon system runs 19 speakers to the Elite's 11.
  • Roadside assistance for 5 years or 60,000 miles, where the Odyssey's stops the day its 3-year, 36,000-mile basic term does.
Minivan on a city street, seen from the front three-quarter angle

Where the Honda Odyssey Wins

The Odyssey's advantages start with people: how many fit, and how much room their legs get once they are in.

  • 8 seats standard in every trim, with no 7-seat version offered. The Pacifica seats 7 standard, and its 8-passenger layout is optional on the Select and front-wheel drive only.
  • Second-row legroom of 40.9 in against 39.0 in, and third-row legroom of 38.1 in against 36.5 in. Those are the two rows a growing family argues about.
  • More headroom in the front two rows than a Pacifica with the dual-pane sunroof: 38.7 in against 38.4 in up front, and 39.2 in against 38.0 in in the second row.
  • A better-equipped entry stereo, at 7 speakers with a subwoofer on the EX-L against 6 on the Pacifica Select.
  • The Honda Maintenance Program, 1 year or 12,000 miles, included with every trim.
Mike Kelly Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram in Hermitage, Pennsylvania

Minivans in the Shenango Valley

Mike Kelly Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram is the Shenango Valley's only Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram store, and the Pacifica is a van we deliver and service year round. That is worth less as a sales line than as a practical one: we see which configurations valley families actually order, and which questions they come back with.

Here the two questions arrive together, and they pull against each other. A valley family wants the second driven axle for the mornings the plow has not reached yet, and the same family wants the eighth belt for the carpool. A Pacifica will give you either one. It will not give you both, and that is the single most useful thing to know before you settle on a trim rather than after.

Winter is why the all-wheel-drive question gets asked here at all. Hermitage sits on the edge of the Appalachian plateau, where winters are cold and snowy.

A van in this valley runs school pickups on side streets that get plowed after the main roads. It runs shift changes at Sharon Regional, UPMC Horizon and the other valley hospitals that are now the area's largest employers. It runs the Saturday trip to Kraynak's or Buhl Farm Park, then merges onto the Shenango Valley Freeway when the family goes further than that. Front-wheel drive and good winter tires handle most of it. A second driven axle changes how the worst mornings feel, and only the person driving those mornings can price that.

If the eighth seat is the one thing that cannot move, the arithmetic gets simpler. It points at the Odyssey.

What is running on a Pacifica this month may not be running next month, so our new vehicle specials page is the place to check before you shop.

2026 Chrysler Pacifica ready for a test drive at Mike Kelly CDJR in Hermitage

Drive Ours, Then Drive Theirs

The all-wheel-drive question gets answered faster in a driveway than on a spec table. Take a Pacifica up the street you actually live on, load the third row the way you load it, and work the sliding doors with your hands full. Fold the Stow 'n Go seats once while you are there, since that is the mechanism you will use for the next ten years.

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Then drive an Odyssey at a Honda store, ideally on the same roads the same day. We do not sell new Hondas, so we will not have a new Odyssey on our lot, and that side of the comparison is worth arranging yourself. Back to back is when the seat count and the drivetrain both stop being numbers.

When the money question comes up, our Chrysler Pacifica inventory page carries the price on each specific van, trim by trim and configuration by configuration. Run a monthly figure through our payment calculator, or get pre-approved before you drive out.

Frequently Asked Questions

Yes, as a configuration of the Limited. It is a real all-wheel-drive system with its own gearing, its own weight and its own fuel economy rating of 17 city / 25 highway / 20 combined, against 19 / 28 / 22 for the front-wheel-drive van.

No. Every 2026 Odyssey is front-wheel drive, across all four of its trims, with no all-wheel-drive configuration to order.

No, and this is the constraint that surprises people. The 8-passenger 2/3/3 layout is an option on the front-wheel-drive Select only, and it is not available with all-wheel drive. Pick the rear axle and you have a 7-seat van; pick the eighth seat and you have front-wheel drive. The Odyssey seats 8 on all four trims, so a family that will not bend on 8 seats has the simpler decision.

The Pacifica seats 7 in a 2/2/3 layout as standard across the Select, Limited and Pinnacle, with the 8-passenger layout optional on the front-wheel-drive Select. The Odyssey seats 8 on all four trims and offers no 7-seat version.

Outside, neither, in any way you would notice. The Odyssey is 0.9 in longer at 205.2 in, the Pacifica is 1.1 in wider across the body at 79.6 in, they are 0.3 in apart in height, and they turn in circles that differ by less than a tenth of a foot. The Pacifica's wheelbase is 3.5 in longer, at 121.6 in against 118.1 in. Inside, the Pacifica is the wider van at every row and the Odyssey has more legroom in the back two.

Neither, in any way that should decide a purchase. Behind row three, the Odyssey holds 32.8 cu ft to the Pacifica's 32.3; behind the second row the Pacifica holds 87.5 to the Odyssey's 86.6; behind the first row they sit 0.2 cu ft apart at 140.5 and 140.7. The real difference is the seat mechanism, Stow 'n Go against Magic Seat and Magic Slide, so go fold both.

They tie. Both are rated 19 city / 28 highway / 22 combined on regular fuel with front-wheel drive. The only figure that separates them is the Pacifica's all-wheel-drive rating of 17 / 25 / 20, which is the cost of the hardware the Odyssey does not offer.

It splits. The Pacifica has more headroom back there, 38.7 in against 38.3, and more shoulder room, 61.2 in against 60.0, plus 1.1 in more hip room. The Odyssey has considerably more legroom, 38.1 in against 36.5. Tall passengers care about the legroom; three across care about the width.

On the Elite. Every Pacifica trim has one, from the Select up, and both vans put heated front seats on every trim they sell. Ventilated front seats favor the Pacifica too: standard from the Limited up, and on the Odyssey Elite alone.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration rates the Pacifica 5 stars overall and the Odyssey 5 stars overall, and the Pacifica's all-wheel-drive configuration is rated separately at 5 stars overall as well. Ratings change as new tests are published, so check NHTSA.gov for the latest.

The Pacifica is rated at 3,600 lb once the factory towing equipment is fitted, which is offered on the Limited and the Pinnacle. The Odyssey is rated at 3,500 lb across all four trims with Honda's towing equipment and hitch ball fitted and trailer brakes in use, and Honda recommends premium unleaded when towing. Both need equipment added to reach those figures, and a 100 lb difference is not a deciding factor.

The basic, powertrain and corrosion terms match: 3 years or 36,000 miles, 5 years or 60,000 miles, and 5 years with unlimited miles. Roadside assistance is where they part. The Pacifica carries it for 5 years or 60,000 miles, while the Odyssey's runs through the 3-year, 36,000-mile basic term. Honda adds the Honda Maintenance Program, 1 year or 12,000 miles, on every trim.

That depends on the trim, the drivetrain, the equipment on the specific van and the programs running when you buy. The price on an actual vehicle is the only figure worth quoting, so check what is listed on our Pacifica listings page and put the number through our payment estimator.